Differentiate particle angular momentum about a fixed origin
Use a cross product for a moving particle and track an origin change consistently.
Learning outcome: Compare two origins for the same assigned r,p,F. Compute both cross products directly and through the translation identities. Find a supported case with zero torque and explain why its angular momentum need not be zero. Identify which change would invalidate the fixed-origin derivative proof.
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State the reference axis and system, distinguish time and angle integrals, and verify an accessible and supported motion branch.
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At a=1,b=2, Lz=−4 kg m²/s and tau_z=−4 N m. About the shifted origin, Lprime=−6 and tauprime=−2. Directly using rprime=(0,2) reproduces both results.
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Can a straight-moving particle have nonzero angular momentum about a fixed point?
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Compare two origins for the same assigned r,p,F. Compute both cross products directly and through the translation identities. Find a supported case with zero torque and explain why its angular momentum need not be zero. Identify which change would invalidate the fixed-origin derivative proof.
Compute angular momentum about two fixed origins
Worked teaching model · synthetic values · At one instant r=(x,2) m,p=(3,py) kg m/s and force(1,−2) N. Compare originO=(0,0) and fixedOprime=(1,0). Cross products in the plane; not a required circular path.
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| x coordinate (m) | y coordinate (m) |
|---|---|
| 0 | 0 |
| 1 | 2 |
| Quantity | Value | Unit |
|---|---|---|
| Angular momentum about O | -4 | kg m²/s |
| Angular momentum about shifted Oprime | -6 | kg m²/s |
| Torque about O | -4 | N m |
| Torque about shifted Oprime | -2 | N m |
| Origin-shift change in angular momentum | -2 | kg m²/s |
Particle angular momentum is r cross p about a specified reference point, not only a spinning-body quantity.
In the plane Lz=x py−y px and tauz=x Fy−y Fx. Differentiating r cross p about a fixed inertial origin leaves r cross F because v cross mv=0. Changing the fixed origin changes both L and torque consistently. Component-plot axes may rescale independently; infer directions from numbers, not screen angles.
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Particle angular momentum is r cross p about a specified reference point, not only a spinning-body quantity.
In the plane Lz=x py−y px and tauz=x Fy−y Fx. Differentiating r cross p about a fixed inertial origin leaves r cross F because v cross mv=0. Changing the fixed origin changes both L and torque consistently. Component-plot axes may rescale independently; infer directions from numbers, not screen angles.
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