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Reject a circular path that needs a pulling surface

At the top of a convex circular support, inward points downward toward the circle center. A 2 kg point has gravity downward and a surface normal upward. The term centripetal force names the inward resultant needed for circular motion; it is not a third interaction to add to gravity and normal.

Learning outcome: Compare speeds 4,6,8 m/s at R=4 m. Draw the two actual interaction forces, then calculate the inward resultant. Keep failed required normal separate from actual force and state what is not predicted after separation.

Starting recap

Draw recipient-specific interactions, resolve signed components and identify the domain of each force/contact model before substituting.

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At R=4 m, the zero-normal speed is√40≈6.32456 m/s. A prescribed6 m/s state remains feasible, whereas8 m/s does not follow the circular-support model.

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A negative required normal at a convex crest means:

Experiment

Compare speeds 4,6,8 m/s at R=4 m. Draw the two actual interaction forces, then calculate the inward resultant. Keep failed required normal separate from actual force and state what is not predicted after separation.

Test whether a circular crest can supply its required force

Worked teaching model · synthetic values · A 2 kg point is at the top of a convex circular support, gravity 10 m/s². Normal force is upward, desired inward direction downward. Contact cannot pull inward. Failure means circular constraint invalid; no road-speed or ride-safety recommendation.

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Required circular-contact normal

required upward normal (N)speed (m/s)0820-12

Unlike graph quantities rescale independently; read units and values, not screen angles. 1: conditional equation, negative means failure (solid). Joined curves show the supplied model, not additional observations.

Equivalent numerical coordinates for Required circular-contact normal

conditional equation, negative means failure

speed (m/s)required upward normal (N)
020
0.219.98
0.419.92
0.619.82
0.819.68
119.5
1.219.28
1.419.02
1.618.72
1.818.38
218
2.217.58
2.417.12
2.616.62
2.816.08
315.5
3.214.88
3.414.22
3.613.52
3.812.78
412
4.211.18
4.410.32
4.69.42
4.88.48
57.5
5.26.48
5.45.42
5.64.32
5.83.18
62
6.20.78
6.4-0.48
6.6-1.78
6.8-3.12
7-4.5
7.2-5.92
7.4-7.38
7.6-8.88
7.8-10.42
8-12

At most 82 representative computed coordinates including endpoints; the plotted curve can use a finer grid. A table of a revealed generator is not independent measurement evidence.

Calculated quantities under the declared measurement model
QuantityValueUnit
Required circular inward acceleration9m/s²
Required upward normal2N
Actual contact normal2N
Actual instantaneous downward acceleration9m/s²
Circular contact branch feasible1flag
Critical speed for zero normal6.32456m/s

Gravity minus the support force supplies the inward resultant at the crest.

At the top, mg−N=mv²/R. Centripetal force names that inward resultant, not a third interaction to add to gravity and normal. Equality N=0 is a marginal instantaneous contact boundary; beyond it actual free-flight acceleration is g, not v²/R constrained to the surface. No full post-separation trajectory is computed.

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Gravity minus the support force supplies the inward resultant at the crest.

At the top, mg−N=mv²/R. Centripetal force names that inward resultant, not a third interaction to add to gravity and normal. Equality N=0 is a marginal instantaneous contact boundary; beyond it actual free-flight acceleration is g, not v²/R constrained to the surface. No full post-separation trajectory is computed.

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Define the recipient and model

At the top of a convex circular support, inward points downward toward the circle center. A 2 kg point has gravity downward and a surface normal upward. The term centripetal force names the inward resultant needed for circular motion; it is not a third interaction to add to gravity and normal.

Build the algebraic relationship

If contact maintains the circular path, mg−N=mv²/R. Rearranging gives N=m(g−v²/R). Higher speed requires a larger inward resultant and therefore a smaller upward normal at the crest. This may initially seem opposite to intuition developed for the bottom of a valley, where the radial direction is different.

Check the changed state

Contact is feasible only while the required normal is nonnegative. At v=√(gR), N=0 is the marginal instantaneous boundary. Above it, the surface would need to pull downward; instead the point loses contact and follows a new free-flight trajectory. Its immediate acceleration is then gravity, not the imposed circular acceleration v²/R.

Interpret evidence and limits

With R=4 m and v=6 m/s, inward demand is 9 m/s² and N=2 N. At v=8 m/s, the circular equation demands N=−12 N, which is rejected. The graph intentionally shows that conditional negative requirement to reveal the failure; the ledger separately gives actual normal zero. No road, ride or athletic speed limit is certified by this virtual model.

Worked original packet

At R=4 m, the zero-normal speed is√40≈6.32456 m/s. A prescribed6 m/s state remains feasible, whereas8 m/s does not follow the circular-support model.

Bounded investigation

Compare speeds 4,6,8 m/s at R=4 m. Draw the two actual interaction forces, then calculate the inward resultant. Keep failed required normal separate from actual force and state what is not predicted after separation.

Changed-case numerical practice

Try the changed case before feedback

For m=3 kg, R=5 m, v=5 m/s and g=10 m/s² at a convex crest, find required upward normal in newtons.

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Original prose, data and diagrams checked 30 October 2026 against OpenStax College Physics 2e. This is an algebra-based virtual evidence exercise, not a physical experiment, equipment certification, transport recommendation or independent mastery result. Save assumptions and a competing explanation with the course evidence; supervised practical requirements remain external.

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A negative required normal at a convex crest means:

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Why does changing from crest to valley change the signs in the radial balance?

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